Let's try it again: This post from #Mastodon can reach the whole #Fediverse, #Bluesky & more. That's #Sharkey, #Pixelfed (hence the pic), #Mbin, #Lemmy, #Friendica, #Hometown, #Akkoma... How far can it go?
Edit: The results are in
So this is a test post you ask users to repost? And by you, I mean a paid writer for Heise, a commercial business? Looks to me at best as a meaningless test post, at worst an unpaid ad for your employer.
How is this not spam and why should I not remove this from !fediverse@lemmy.world?
PS: Note that merely downvoting is not an argument. Reply with an argument if you think that’s a worthwhile post to a Lemmy community.
Well, the ad for my employer (as an WP-link) came from you, didn't it?
This is not the first such post: I have a tool, that makes it simple to later visualize from where the reactions came.
https://social.heise.de/@mho/112965913501761509
I think it's quite interesting to compare the promise of the #Fediverse (reach so many different networks) with the reality (it's mainly #Mastodon). And this is a good way, I think. On the other hand, this posts do show, how far your content can go.
Well, the ad for my employer (as an WP-link) came from you, didn’t it?
You posted from that commercial domain, Wikipedia is non-commercial.
And this is a good way, I think.
That’s a weak argument for why your post isn’t spam. We here at Lemmy did not agree beforehand to participate in your experiment how far your commercial posts reach.
Isn't this directly about the #Fediverse?
Isn’t this directly about the #Fediverse?
Seems like your primary interest is to measure commercial reach and so far you made no argument to the contrary. I’m not against commercial content in the Fediverse. In fact, I’m in favor on giving users the choice what they follow and what they don’t follow but that question hasn’t been asked by you here. You just made your post and all ~30k subscribers here are the lap rats for your experiment.
Mastodon users mindlessly tagging entire Lemmy communities are a common annoyance and if your analytics tool is the same as in the past, it doesn’t even register any interactions from there anyway, making your experiment even more pointless but not really a pity to me that Lemmy is invisible to your advertisers:
Honestly, please tell me more about how I can commercialize this posts. This would make it easier for me to justify all I'm doing here out of interest and goodwill towards #Mastodon etc. Mainly in my freetime, if I may add... (I'm using this account, because this is the one for technical stuff and it has greater reach)
I didn't "mindlessly" tag the Lemmy community, but because I knew, that otherwise it would be very difficult to spread over there.
Honestly, please tell me more about how I can commercialize this posts.
I’m not your business consultant. If you want to hire me, DM me. Don’t spam this Lemmy community.
@mho Sadly that user is a moderator of the fediverse community on lemmy.world and has just now removed the entire post. It had approx. 200 upvotes. Weird sad power move...
Looks to me like the exact reason quite some people cba to deal with this and move on the next big platform where you don’t have this behaviour (because there is no real moderation, or its algorithmic driven) It’s the same atmosphere you had in the nineties with “use your real name!!!” in newsgroups.
@maschinentraum @squirrel @mho
Old Fido.net vibes, indeed.
@maschinentraum @squirrel @mho
Bad, ill intentioned and power hungry moderation is almost worse than no moderation at all.
That's kind of the one crux on the Fediverse, ain't it?
Instances appear and there rarely is a move to see mods on them as an equivalent to the ideal of what police should be. An honorable privilege to uphold the highest standards and responsibility. To act better than the rest, so they are able to keep the peace.
Instead they are the real police. Hungry Bullies.
@maschinentraum @squirrel @mho
It certainly is why I decided to run my own instance for just myself, so I am the sole arbiter of what goes.
@the_duke @maschinentraum @squirrel @mho
"I decided to run my own instance for just myself"
very true, that is the absolute ideal of the fediverse.
And a good approximation to this ideal is if users search for public server-instances, which do not collect more as 1000 accounts for example.
Every instance growing massivly more is a bug in fediverse as mass-attraction on few instances will let collapse the fediverse into the centralistic again with the dictatoric capapbilities a user should not support.
@the_duke @maschinentraum @squirrel @mho
"That's kind of the one crux on the Fediverse, ain't it?"
The crux on the Fediverse is: You are not captured by this gatekeeper, it's just a individual instance you will not miss in your reach.
Martin Holland
@maschinentraum @squirrel @mho
"Looks to me like the exact reason quite some people cba to deal with this and move on the next big platform"
Why should this be a reason to leave the fediverse.
The opposite is true, because in the fediverse you can ignore these “human gatekeepers” because your fediverse doesn't really shrink when an instance gatekeeper takes their instance out of your reach. There are still most others.
On a centralized basis, you are held captive by the central gatekeeper, whether it's an algorithmic or human gatekeeper.
@mho @woelkchen I don't know much about Lemmy the software but seriously this is the weirdest fediverse conversation I've seen for a while. If @woelkchen had a point, any poll or any question to users with the request to reply or boost would be "using people as lab rats." I don't get it.
Thank you @mho for your work making the fediverse more attractive to reporters.
Being a moderator can do strange things to you...