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Well, asking individual accounts on #Threads or #Bluesky to turn on federation or following the account of #BridgyFed yields some positive results. But more often than not, there's no reaction. And this does not exactly scale either.
Any idea how to get way more connections between the two networks and the #Fediverse & #Mastodon?
Searching on #Threads and #Bluesky for accounts, who should be visible in #Mastodon and the #Fediverse makes me realize, how much more lively, diverse and frankly fun both networks seem to be. Would like to see more of that here, too.
@mho
What is it in your experience that makes these networks more fun than Mastodon?
I haven't tried either, so I have no idea...
@mho people from #threads and #bluesky are always welcome in the #fediverse!
They can sign up with a real fediverse service and enjoy free and open source software that doesnt sell their data. Awesome!
Here's a list of fediverse instances that are free: https://fedipact.veganism.social/
Agree. I've pretty much stopped using my Mastodon account these days, but would like me some #Threads in my feed without having to stoop to actually creating a Threads account! ;)
@mho problem is that its a selfsustaining effect; hard to convince people to put effort into a network that is perceived to be less fun/active than the others.
And yeah, I definitely relate to your observation as well
@mho my experience here is pretty good. Interesting posts, not too much. I tried out Bluesky and was quickly annoyed. There are more posts presented to me, but it's just more crap I don't like. Didn't try Threads. So I wonder what makes them more fun and interesting to you?
@mho the URL seems to be broken. It says that the content I'm looking for doesn't exist.
@mho yes, invite people into the #Fediverse instead?
Cuz most people explicitly choose to block those on sight for a lot of good reasons...
@mho call me weird but @mastodonusercount shows the steady and healthy growth of the #Fediverse...
But what do I know? I did use #XMPP & #IRC before most folks even tried #ICQ amd #Discord was even conceptualized so I definitely have 0 experience distinguishing a working solution and something destined to die once VCs want to cashout...
- And yes, inviting folks works!!!
@kkarhan
Well, the "growth" visible @mastodonusercount is based on only newly created accounts. It could possibly be totally explained by accounts moving from one instance to another (for that you create a new one, and the old doesn't disappear). The number of monthly active users (MAU) has been declining since quite some time now and is now under one million:
https://fedidb.org/
So in reality, there is no growth, not even a "steady and healthy" one.
@mho I've got a better idea: I try to help the fediverse survive and block every account that tries to destroy the fediverse by federating with malware-meta and alt-right jack.
@Codeschubse @mho Are you talking about Nostr, where Jack hangs out? Because Bluesky has nothing to do with Jack anymore, and hasn't had much to do with him ever since they set up the company…
Jack complains about Bluesky having even the slightly jank composable moderation they have now.
@mho @J12t 's theory on why Meta is opening up their walled garden at all was "throwing a bone to the regulators" (in the light of DSA I guess).
So it seems DSA is mandating open protocols, and the question for me is: does it allow to do this optionally like Threads does? Maybe if DSA gets amended in that respect, Threads would have to always federate accounts?
WDYT @J12t @evan @Gargron